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Thursday · October 27 2005

It's obvious by now that the Cubs will never win a World Series unless they change their name to the Chicago Blue Sox. Long suffering teams must be a “Sox” of some sort to end their misery.

Congrats to all the White Sox fans on the World Championship. World Series sweeps can be very boring (see the Red Sox over the Cardinals last year), yet every game in this short series was exciting to watch. This Sox team was a baseball fan's sort of team. I'll never be a Sox fan, but World Series baseball in Chicago is a beautiful thing, no matter who is on the field.

Sox chairman, Jerry Reinsdorf: “I thought about that the instant the Red Sox won last year that maybe we were next. And now maybe next year it will be the Cubs' turn, and that would mean even more for our city.”

What you had to say:
October 27 2005

Hooray! I was on the edge of my seat until the last moment. From the perspective of a relatively new baseball fan anyway, this series will be tough to beat!

October 27 2005

hey the astros should have won

October 27 2005

the astros have plenty of time to win! They've waited, what, 50 years or so? Chump change. :)

October 27 2005

I remember a Jerry Seinfeld thing about being a NY Giants fan. He said it was strange - since he'd become a fan as a kid the team had changed stadiums, moved out of New York state, and everyone in the organization - including the owners - had been replaced many times. "So who or what am I a fan of?" asked Jerry. "I guess I'm basically a fan of the uniforms. I'm rooting for laundry. And if a player gets traded to another team and then that team plays the Giants, I'm booing him. 'Boo! Bad clothes!"

I think he's basically right, and pro sports is a scam in lots of ways, but what saves it from being meaningless is the masses of people watching these silly games who collectively decide that these guys running around, this effort, is something important and worth caring about.

They aren't our team because they're the Chicago White Sox and we're Chicagoans. They're our team because we say they're our team. We decided this together. Shits like Reinsdorf may have tricked us into it, but in the end it doesn't matter. We've elected them to represent us - some part of us. When they win, we're proud of them and of ourselves.

October 28 2005

I don't even know if it's the effort that's worth caring about. I think people root for sports teams because they enjoy the camraderie of rooting along with others. It's about the community of like-minded fans. It's a way for people to feel, "It's us against them, and we're better (stronger, smarter, faster, more skilled, whatever)." Sports validate by proxy. Individually, we don't need to be special to feel good, but if our team wins, we're special by association.

I agree with you, HB. It's the community they chose to belong in, not necessarily where the team is, though that often determines choice by default.

October 28 2005

rally recap:
Paulie: class move
Perry: sour note

October 28 2005

Please elaborate. My dad went down for the parade and said he couldn't see or hear a thing.

October 28 2005

I'm glad to see you congratulate the Sox fans, Jason - I think it's pretty hilarious that some Cubs fans are bitter about this. I mean, come now. Really.

October 28 2005

I don't think it's hilarious at all. I think it's pretty well warranted considering the # of Sox fans who threw parties when the Cubs screwed the pooch in 2003.

I couldn't get into rooting for the Sox any more than I was able to root for the Astros no matter how hard I tried. I enjoyed watching the games; I'm happy for Chicago. The Sox get a polite golf clap from me. I'm happy for everyone. Let's move on with our lives now.

October 29 2005

Wait a minute, Jason. Chicago just won it's first World Series in my lifetime. My Dad - who was an ardent Cub fan but took me to occasional Sox games too, would have loved this. I'm not ready to just move on - I want to bask in the glow for at least a couple of weeks.

Cubs-hating Sox fans are pathetically insecure (and there are lots of them). That "ALCS Tickets: $185; Cubs fans at home: Priceless" banner that somebody hung in front of a skybox at Sox park was so stupid that I actually felt sorry for the people who felt that way. You wouldn't see a banner like that in Wrigley during a league championship series because Cub fans, even Sox-hating Cubs fans, don't think about the Sox that much. Somebody goes to watch the Sox fight for a championship and the most encouraging thing they can think of is to slam the Cubs? Years of therapy are called for, if not electric shock treatments.

But even Sox-hating Cubs fans have to thank the '05 Sox for one thing: the bar for Chicago baseball has been raised much higher this fall. Rooting for the Lovable Losers and their ivy is going to lose a lot of its charm in the spring as fans flock to Cellulose to cheer the reigning champs in their quest for two in a row. If the Cubs suck again, people are going to wonder why they aren't watching real baseball on the southside. They'll ask themselves why they aren't watching a team that seems to acually want to win. TribCo's cynical ploy to keep salary costs down while raising ticket prices for The Wrigley Experience will start to feel like the scam it is.

I'm not saying Cubs fans will defect. But I'm sure they'll lose tolerance for their team's failure to compete. Watching the team across town work its ass off to be the best in baseball is going to make a lot of Cubs fans feel like suckers. And no real baseball fan want to feel like a sucker.

October 29 2005

I'm not basking in any glow, because I don't believe in baseball fan bandwagoning. Basketball, football...sure root for the home team when they're hot, but I'm not a fan of those sports like I am with baseball. I've never been there for the Sox when they needed me to believe, so I'd be a hypocrite to let them make me happy at this merry end.

I'm most happy for the reasons you put out in the last 2 paragraphs. The sheen is wearing away from The Wrigley Experience and TribCo needs to put a real product on the field again. Unfortunately sun-bathing Trixie and keg-stand Chad will pay their money to attend the summer's biggest afternoon pre party in town, no matter what the product is, so my missing dollar is unnoticed.

TribCo is cynical towards their fans and it does suck for those of us want good baesball, not a good bar, inside a stadium.

© 2005 Jason Keglovitz