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Tuesday · February 01 2005

The structure of romantic and sexual relations at 'Jefferson High School'
Very interesting social modeling project. Here's the story writeup behind the graphic.

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February 01 2005

To really drive the point home, that graphic needs a bunch of unconnected blue dots lined up on the side.

February 02 2005

I was thinking the same thing!! But pink ones, really. And what about pink on pink and blue on blue?

February 02 2005

I like to invent the story behind each of the isolated networks. Are the band geeks one of the rings off to their own? Or are they a part of the really big network and they got connected through one really cute band geek girl?

Tori, I noticed no blue on blue and just one pink on pink. I don't know if homosexual relationships were left out of the study or what.

February 02 2005

I was always under the impression that the lone pink dots were on the sidelines by choice. Not really the case with most of the lone blue dots. I could be wrong.

It's possible that any pink-pink or blue-blue relationships were among the 63 unconnected pairs not pictured on the chart.

Regarding the band, I think Kegz "cute girl" theory is accurate. In my recollection, band people were either lone dots, in weird neverending long-term dot-pairs, or involved in a big ring that was integrated with the rest of the student body. Our band also had a small handful of "band studs," extremely talented young jazz musicians who got a lot of attention from girls by using words like "gig" and "riff" whenever possible.

February 02 2005

I base my band theory more on college experience than high school. As far as I could tell, the marching band guys at my high school were as far on the lonely sidelines as you could be. In college, however, the marching band people found one another and developed a sexual network that seemed to intertwine like no other. You couldn't make it from one side of the south quad to the other without catching sight of marching band folk groping one another.

Now the girls who twirled the flags and played cymbals? They were the band stud groupies.

Mass stereotyping is fun.

February 02 2005

That is certainly an accurate description of college band. My school didn't have a marching band (they tried briefly and gave up) but I know a bunch of people who were in Penn State's marching band.

My high school band certainly had a fair number of lonely sideliners (I was a sideliner, but not really a lonely sideliner, if that makes sense) but we were probably a bit less geeky than most. I think that's because we didn't compete. We did a new show every home game so it was more fun than it is at most schools. Thus, we had a lot of people, like me and most of my friends, who weren't really very interested in band and were involved in many other activities.

February 03 2005

The pink-pink and blue-blue pairs were the first thing I looked for. Do we think the lone lesbian couple is just a graphical error?
Also, remember that only about half of the students reported romantic relationships. There really are lots of lone dots on the side, Reed, but that wasn't the 'point' being driven home.
You guys are cute trying to make your own band perceptions and experiences fit into some stereotype. As far as I know, (and I wasn't in band,) band geeks had sex just as often as anyone else. Anyone poll their friends?

February 03 2005

I don't think it's a matter of frequency. My perception of band geeks in college tells me they had sex more frequently with more PDA than anybody else. I was initially wondering if one of the satellite networks was the marching band or if they got tied in somehow to the bigger web of dots.

I have all other sorts of stereotype candidates in mind for the satellite networks, but who knows.

February 03 2005

I know there are lots of lone dots, I just wish they were represented on the diagram. It wouldn't have much scientific value, but it would certainly represent how high school feels when you're in it.

I think this guy needs to study a few more schools. That big mega-cluster is a suprising finding, I think, and may be an anamoly.

Are lesbian/gay couples a lot more noticeable then they were in our day? I don't think there was a single openly gay couple in my school, although a number of my ex-classmates came "out" after school.

February 03 2005

Good question. I don't remember anything like that from my high school, but the ones I have taught at are full of clubs and support organizations like HBGLA, etc. There were lots of 'out' kids at the boarding school, and plenty of same-sex PDA.

I'd like to see a longer-term study, and an animated graphic. You have to think that some of the sattelite groups will merge, and those 63 couples will branch out. Over time, even as dots graduate and disappear, will you still see the same unbalanced cluster structure?

And, how does the cluster really look for adults? The article explains a little of how it's different, but adults don't live in a self-contained unit like high school, nor do they graduate. How do they determine sample space or size?

I love it when someone uses math in social sciences.

February 03 2005

I guess a lot has changed in 14 years. I wonder if my school has a HBGLA chapter now.

I tend to think that social sciences aren't very scientific unless math gets involved at some point.

February 04 2005

There is one blue on blue in the larger diagram.

February 04 2005

yep, you're right. Good eyes.

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